Talking turkey...and bears and backs

A bear behind a dollar store counter isn’t how most holiday chats begin, but that’s where ours goes—straight into the absurd, the timely, and the surprisingly useful. We start with a lightning round of cultural curiosities: a 17-year-old who turned cozy hoodies and dreamy unboxing into a booming brand, the mystery of National “Have a Bad Day” Day, and the Midwest-made story of Sweetest Day. Then we poke at Heinz’s “leftover gravy,” asking whether it’s a real condiment or just a novelty container dressed in nostalgia.

From there, we pull the chair closer to the table and carve into turkey. We explore how turkey became the Thanksgiving centerpiece—from Sarah Josepha Hale’s relentless advocacy to the practicality that made the bird a staple—and why so many of us love a thin-shaved turkey sandwich yet shrug at the holiday roast. We share smart planning tips to cut food waste, talk stuffing without the sage wars, and lay out the case for spatchcocking: a faster, flatter, crispier path to juicy meat that any butcher can prep. For a dose of wonder, we add wild turkey facts—25 mph sprints, short bursts of flight, color-changing heads—and a simple Mylar trick to keep them away from your porch.

Hosting this season? We offer clear, kind scripts that nudge RSVPs without nagging and set firm boundaries without sending a Venmo request for pastries. We untangle the “Nona” décor trend and land on a warmer idea: curate what actually sparks joy, skip the rest, and protect your peace. We close with real life—back twinges from hair-whipping and yard work, a street finally repaved, and a kid’s birthday dinner that turns into pure laughter with older friends and no screens. That’s the point of the season: fewer perfect moments, more true ones.

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Transcript

The Pickle Sandwich Debate

Teen Founder Of Pink Palm Puff

Bear Walks Into A Dollar Store

SPEAKER_00 0:07

Hi, thanks for joining us today. It's Nora. And Nora, we're sure glad you're here. We are. Thanks for joining us again. Again. Yes. To those of you tuning in for the very first time and those that come back week after week. Exactly. Yeah. It's it's nice to have you. It's nice to be here. Nice to see you. I haven't seen you in a while. I am grateful for this podcast because I feel like we have been going in two different directions. So I am happy to meet with you today and get caught up and have a couple good giggles. I was thinking about you last week because I had picked up lunch for my kids and friends before they drove down to the state volleyball game. Okay. And Mike ordered a pickle witch. Oh Mike, no. For his worst enemy. Did he get it for someone he hates? And he enjoyed it here in the kitchen before they left. And I almost took a picture to send it to you. He asked if I wanted a bite. I said no. How was that? They did kind of done. Okay. I just wonder if it's like tough to like fight through the skin. I would think yes. Yeah. Mike must have very strong teeth. Very sharp teeth. Congratulations on this. Healthy teeth. It was a buy one, get one free day. Yeah, because they were like, get rid of these pickles. We only got one, but yuck. Well, I'm happy for him that such a sandwich exists. He can just you're far away from me. I said, had you ever had one of these before? He's like, no, it just sounded good. Well, I appreciate his spirit of adventure. To each their own. Exactly. I had a question for you. Have you heard of this brand called Pink Palm Puff? No. It's all the rage, apparently. This 17-year-old girl owns Is it sweatshirts? Yes. Yes. Owns this company. Yes, I have. And I don't know why. I thought it was just called Pink Palm, but that would make sense. Pink Palm Puff. Yes. Yes. It's all these sweatshirts and then swimsuits and Oh, I didn't know she had swimsuits. Swimsuits and pajamas, and she's smart because she's like, it's all about the unboxing. So I guess the packaging is darling. Oh, and she has sweatpants and things like that. But I feel like I have seen these hoodies. Some of them have little I've seen this hoodie. Quotes. Everything comes in waves. And I was just thinking you have very trendy daughters like their mother, and I was curious if you had heard of it. My girls do not have any of this, but my girls' friends do. Okay. And none of my girls have asked for it yet. Oh, okay. So I mean they're cute. It's a lot to read on a sweatshirt. I didn't realize there was it was a 17-year-old girl. How did she start? That's what I'm not sure. Yeah, she's a 17-year-old, she founded this company in middle school. What I'm curious is, and I'm not trying to minimize her accomplishment, because good for her, but if my child came to me and said, Oh, I have an idea for a sweatshirt company, I wouldn't have the means to help her get that going. You need some sort of initial money to start a clothing company and the resources. So I'm I am curious to read more for her about her to see if she had connections or a money tree that helped her get this business off the ground. Or if she did like pound the pavement and get investors and you know start from the bottom up, but it's it's going very well. Where did it start? The stuff is very cute. That I don't know where California. I'm gonna think oh, Florida or California. I'm not exactly sure where they're from, but they're just cute as a button. They are cute. Good for her. Yeah. Well, switching gears just a little bit. I read a story earlier this week about an 11-year-old from Pennsylvania who was waiting in the car for his father.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 4:03

And he finally hopped out to see what was taking dad so long inside the store. And when he hopped out of the car, there was a bear staring at him. What? So he came face to face with this bear looking at him. Oh my god. So he took off running into the dollar store. Yeah. That the bear somehow got into and was like thrashing around through. A quote from this poor kid said, I thought I was going to be eaten by a bear. So that didn't work. So he pivoted and the chapter. So the bear kept with all the junk that was in the dollar store, he was still like little boy. No, I think it the bear got distracted. Okay. And then little boy and the cashier ran out. But there's a video of it. And I know our listeners probably don't want to hear us talking about the video, but I'll just show you this picture of that's the bear behind the Oh, he was trying to get a job. He was behind the counter. Yeah. He's like, looks like he's about to scan items or steal gum. I just couldn't imagine the fear I would have because they say an average bear is 600 pounds chasing me. Holy moly. And I think they're surprisingly fast. Yeah. And then it got away. They didn't catch it. Do you never caught it? He's sitting there with all his bear friends, like, you owe me 50 bucks. I totally went into the people town. And stole gum. Double dot you. He's a legend in the in the bear community.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

Yeah, he sure is. Like, dude, they got you on tape. They have your picture.

National Days And Sweetest Day Origins

Heinz “Leftover Gravy” Confusion

Holiday Decor Trend: Nona Aesthetic

Hosting Etiquette And RSVP Texts

SPEAKER_00 5:47

They know who you are. You got sloppy. So yeah, the poor kids. It's wild. I know. Did you know that today, November 19th, is National Have a Bad Day Day? No, and usually I look that up. I know. I was win I wasn't sure if you were gonna have that in your arsenal. Uh but wow, what a weird day. Have a bad day? National Have a Bad Day Day. Don't have a bad day. I don't want anybody to have a bad day. Why you would purposely want to have a bad day? Oh, I hate a bad day. I don't either, yeah. I'm not I'm not looking to plan ahead for one. No, but would it be like, oh, it's the eve of have a bad day day. I'm gonna leave the refrigerator open all night and you know the freezer just a little bit. Who chooses these? Ding dongs. That's what it is. There should be like a national have a national day day. Like, I don't know, but I don't remember days growing up. Not this. I mean, I don't even remember grandparents' day. No, I don't either. I remember Sweetest Day. I was just gonna say I don't remember Sweetest Day. Nazareth used to do flowers. What is the difference between Sweetest Day and Valentine's Day? I think Valentine's Day is mutual. Where Sweetest Day is kind of like, I have a crush on you. But I don't really know. Huh. And when does Sweetest Day fall? I believe it's in October. Okay. Should we guess or should we look at it? No, let's look it up. Yeah, why not? I've got nothing but time. Oh my god. I was right. It's celebrated in the Midwestern United States and parts of the Northeastern United States in Arizona and Florida on the third Saturday in October. It is a day to share romantic deeds or expressions and acts of charity and kindness. This sounds like Valentine's Day. But I think it's different though. And it this year, 20 well, the next one will be in 2026. It'll be on my mom's birthday. Either way, I'll take a I'll take a kindness. Right? Yeah. It's been referred to as a Hallmark holiday. Oh I don't know where it comes from. Oh, it comes from 1922. Oh, it's been around a while. Mm-hmm. Right? Yeah, well, good for everybody who celebrates. Started in Cleveland. How about it? I'm gonna celebrate now. By a candy maker's the sweetest day of the year. Buying a candy. Yeah, they're like, we can't wait for Valentine's Day. It's gotta do something. It's a different quarter. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. But then something not so sweet. It's more savory. Heinz. Yes. The gravy. Yes. Oh my god. My dad, my dad sent me this, but he and I are in disagreement. I think wait, wait, we should tell her listeners. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Set it up. Set it up. It is called leftover gravy, but it is not gravy that is leftover. It is gravy for your leftovers. Heinz has created a squeezable gravy designed especially for leftovers. And it comes like a ketchup wood. Right. And it's available at Walmart. I don't know what is the problem. It's so this is where I think I disagree with you and my dad because I read the article in USA Today. Okay. And there's a picture of this leftover gravy. It's in like a ketchup bottle, but it says leftover gravy, and it's clearly gravy inside. And they said it's stem, they were inspired by us an episode of Friends, where Monica makes a sandwich for Ross with leftover Thanksgiving food. Yes. And the secret ingredient is a gravy soaked piece of bread. Yeah, like a saturated piece of gravy. Yeah, it's called the moist baker. Yes. Anywho, so Heinz came out with this idea, but I clicked the link to buy it because I figured why not? Oh. But then when I clicked on the link, here's the little, it's a cute little box. But this to me looks like an empty container, right? Right. So I think you're not getting gravy. This is a container for your leftover gravy. I think you pour gravy. You pour this in there in there. Yeah. So you're not buying gravy in the bottle already. You buy the jar and an empty container and pour it in yourself. Well, if it's available at Walmart, it would be interesting to see on the shelves of Walmart what it looks like. Correct. It is sold out. Because if it was on the shelves, you would imagine that they wouldn't sell an empty container. Right. So I think you can only buy it in this box. At Walmart? At Walmart. Oh. So I'm not exactly sure what it is, but gravy in a squeeze bottle looks pretty disgusting. So I wonder if that's why they were like, great idea, but because that is kind of funny. Like if you had leftover gravy to put it in that container. Gravy is sick. I don't like gravy. I don't like gravy either. No. Um, but wait, before we unpack all that, I just have to talk to you about a trend as we decorate for the holidays. Okay. Have you heard about the Nona holiday? Nona? Yeah, that's like the grandma's trend. Yeah. Italian grandma? Yeah. I haven't. You don't sit onboard. No, well, because it's blending like kitschy vintage decorations and like warm traditional, cozy plaids and patterns with handmade ornaments and gingerbread, everything. It just sounds like It sounds like a lot. It it sounds like all it's like, would you like all of the Christmas things? From 1984 through 2025? Yeah. It's just all the things. I just I like a minimalist. I like a splash. You like a splash? Well, because you decorate your own tree. But like handmade ornaments and decorum. I save all the kids handmade ornaments. Those I save, but like I wouldn't make you an ornament to give you. Nor would I make you an ornament either. But I wouldn't know I don't think I would make an ornament because I wouldn't know how to make a nice one. Mine would look like a kid. I was just disappointed because it sounds like just like a lot. It doesn't sound like a trend, it just sounds like a D all of the above. Maybe it, yeah. So, but that's what everybody's on board with. They're like just all the stuff. Yeah. All of it. I found on one of my little newsletters, they sent out tips to make holidays less awkward. And I was curious what you thought. Okay. Wait, are you on the skim? The skim? I thought I'm on the skim too. But I didn't I don't always read it because sometimes it's like the skim is like selling stuff. Sometimes it's selling, but the newsletter is great. I get I thought the newsletter was just selling stuff, so I don't even read it. No, not always. Okay, note it. But this one to gently cancel a holiday commitment. So it says stick with honesty while also being apologetic and considerate. Okay. Consider offering an alternative, like a different day or activity. No, I don't like to offer an alternative because then you have to make good on the alternative. I'm so sorry. I can't meet, for example, for coffee on Friday. My plate is overflowing and I want to give you my full attention when we do hang out. Can we reschedule soon for X day? Yeah. Which I think is fine. That's fine. I feel like saying to someone I want to give you my full attention seems a little intense. Yeah. Unless they're going through something. Unless, yes, unless there is a thing. But this is what I really wanted your opinion on, though. So if you are hosting something to delegate a task, like either to pick something up or to make something, to bring something to the event. This is how they said share what's needed after two, offer a couple options of what to bring, which is fine, I think. Okay. If it's not potluck, she suggests reimbursing people. So she said, as you know, so here's the text. As you know, I'm hosting a holiday event this year. I'm so glad you'll be there. If you have time and energy, I'd appreciate your help with this task. Absolutely not. Hold on. Or would you be able to bring or pick up items?

SPEAKER_01 14:12

No.

SPEAKER_00 14:13

Thanks. And then if, and then you could say thanks so much, I'll Venmo you for it. No, I don't think that's okay. Absolutely not. You are offering if you to host people in your home. Host. That is what a host does.

SPEAKER_01 14:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:29

Yeah, no. Unless I think if somebody was like, if you were like, oh, I'm having fruit from this place and I got pastries from Kirsten's bakery. And someone was like, oh, I live right by Kirsten's bakery. Do you want me to pick those up on the way? And I would probably say no because I would like them. You want them before the party starts. Before everybody gets there. No. That's a terrible. I think that's terrible etiquette. You can't also be like, could you bring this? I'll tell I'll pay you for it. I would be like insulted if somebody you and I are close enough where I feel like you could ask me for help. I could ask you for helping. Oh, I think I've asked you before can you bring cookies? 100%. So it's but to text somebody just as your guest seems bizarre. Especially on a holiday, too. Like And like you said, like if you're hosting, you want it on your person ahead of time. And I like to chill, like I like to be the maker and the purchaser. Yeah. Because then it's done my way. And probably like, you know, gosh, what else is it? Here's one I like to follow up on an RSVP, like if someone has an RSVP'd yet. Oh yeah, that that's tricky stuff. I actually did kind of this one I think has has has likes. I'm making final plans for event, and I hope I didn't miss your RSVP. Can you let me know if you'll be joining? That's great. So I kind of liked that. I hope I didn't miss it. Because then you could be like, maybe you did send it, and maybe I missed it. But I probably didn't. Please don't. I didn't miss it. I didn't. So that was that. And there was there was one more, what was the one? Oh, sensitive topics before family gathering, which I feel like this is setting yourself for too much responsibility. So here's the text. Let's keep the focus on joy and connection this year. If things get tense, I'll gently redirect. We all deserve a peaceful space to celebrate. Which is fine, but I think why would you want to elect yourself referee of awkward family conversations? Why do you have to tell them that you're going to be the referee? Why don't you just if you see it getting tense, you don't redirect claim it ahead of time. Like I'm the redirector. Yeah, or just get a whistle, start blowing bell. So holidays. Interesting. But I I thought these were if you do work. What uh I wonder what Emily Post would think about that. Emily Post would be like, write a letter. Handwrite a letter. I'll Venmo. Here's my QR code. I'll send you a chat.

SPEAKER_01 17:01

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Main Topic: Turkey Myths And History

Cooking Preferences And Stuffing Opinions

Wild Turkey Facts And Behavior

Spatchcocking Explained And Reactions

SPEAKER_00 17:24

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I played it for my kids and they think I'm bonkers. Do you like turkey? I love turkey. You do? It is my fave. Really? Yes. There's not too many people that choose turkey as their favorite. I know. Turkey sandwich. No, a turkey sandwich is a very small thing. Oh, we're talking about Thanksgiving how we can turkey. My favorite lunch option is probably a turkey sandwich. But it's funny to me because I feel like a lot of people feel that way. Like turkey sandwich, bring it on. But a turkey for Thanksgiving, no thank you. I'm not a no thank you. I mean, I'll eat it. It just seems like kind of meh. But I'd eat a turkey sandwich every day for lunch. Same. But I like a thin though. Like I'm a little picky. I like a fin or a shave. A shave. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Yeah. I do. I like turkey. I think, you know, the sides often overshadow it because the sides are usually where the, you know, but turkey is the star of the show. What about an air? Have you ever cooked a turkey? Well, sort of, not really. Because when I've hosted, my mom makes a great turkey. So she preps it and like a real one? Like a whole one? Yes. But I do have a really disgusting story about turkey. She gets it all ready, and then my dad drives it to my house, and then I put it in my oven. I just have you ever stuffed it? Sick. No. And I don't intend to. No, never. And I don't think my mother did either. Oh, my mom's all up in there. No, all up in the Up in the turkey. Yeah. It's just not my speed, and I don't think it's a requirement for us to get it. I think it's better. Because it's got all the stuffing inside, and so it's better. But when we lived in London, one year I was in a play and I couldn't go home for Thanksgiving. So my family came to London. It was before any of us had kids. And so my parents, Sean, before he was with Joanna, and then Aaron and Mark came, and I ordered a turkey. Because it's not Thanksgiving in England. It's just November. And but the Whole Foods was it had turkeys that you could pre-order for Thanksgiving. So I ordered the turkey, brought it home, opened the box. It had some feathers still in it, and it still had ankles. And my mom and I were like, and I was a little bit prepared because I had remembered a friend of mine telling me that that had happened to her. But then I kind of laughed because you know, if you see cartoons or like old-timey pictures of people in their little hats on the turkey lakes, I was like, oh, that must be why. Then I that clicked. I'm like, oh, that's why people put things there so you don't see the turkey inkles. Okay. Because I just tried to cut them off. Your mom was there. But we were trying to like tweeze her out feathers brief. No, thank you. No, see, I am just a plain like turkey breast girl. And I can make that throughout the year. It's easy peasy. Yeah. Yeah. I that was an adventure. Not into entire birds. No. It is pretty good. Do you like the stuffing from inside it? I don't like stuffing at all. No. Okay. My grandma had a different recipe than my mom's recipe. And then my brother-in-law has a recipe that he really likes that his mom makes. I've tried all different stuff. I don't like the spices in it. Oh. I think it's that's the problem. I don't, whatever it is, like sage that's in the I don't I find it to be too strong. Okay, that's good. So maybe I could get a sage-less stuffing in it. I don't know if I use sage in mine. Also, I would rather have like a roll than chopped-up bread. Saggy. Saggy chopped-up bread. With drippings. Give me like a roll with some butter on it. Like if I'm gonna have bread, like that's what I now Ryan is not a huge tur dressing fan, but he likes mine. Oh. So what do you do for yours? It's breadcrumbs and things. Sounds delicious. So take it back. I probably would love it. So maybe just chop to bread. It's toast. It's just toast chopped up into little squares. Little salt and pepper on it. Yeah. Well, I was just gonna say we maybe we can try it. Okay, sweet. Do your kids like turkey? Not really. No. No. Because we had a little family Thanksgiving on Sunday, just the six of us, and I said, everyone has to eat everything on the table. What? You get one out. There's one thing. I was like, not including turkey. Oh, you have to try. You have to try everything, and you get one pass on something you don't want to eat. And they all tried turkey, and they're all like, eh. But they like turkey. I mean, they were like, had they not tried it? I they have, but I they I don't, I was like, what have you been eating on things? That's what I was gonna ask. Yeah. Corn, sides, everything else. They're just the picture of health. Rose will eat it. Rose eats everything. But I I did a lot of research into turkeys as the animal. Did you imagine? I did so basic that it's it was practical and symbolic, you know, just skim the surface. The pilgrims and Indians ate it. I know I saw that. They said no evidence. They're like, you know, the the Wampanoag Native Americans probably brought deer. The pilgrims probably had they said fowl, and but that was probably goose or duck. And really the only mention of that meal is in one letter from this guy, Edward Winslow. But then did you see that this Sarah Hale, this author? She was all about it. She loved herself at Thanksgiving sheets. She had an 1827 novel called Northwood and a whole chapter on New England Thanksgiving, and she said roast turkey head at the table. Yeah, they really credited her with popular. She campaigned for it. And then finally, Abe Lincoln proclaimed it in 1863. So she had a good almost 40 years of wanting Thanksgiving to be a thing. And look at this. And now here we are. Way to go, Sarah. And good for her because she chose an animal that's very plentiful around here in the United States. Typically it's affordable, but not this year, turkey prices are up 40%. Okay, speaking of 40, can we talk about how 46 million turkeys are consumed on Thanksgiving? That's a lot of turkeys, but that that's that adds up. Does it make sense? That's anywhere from one to two pounds of turkey per person on Thanksgiving. How much of that is thrown away? A lot. That's what they say to figure when you get your turkey. One to two pounds a person? Yeah. There's no way. I mean, I like turkey and I'm not eating a pound of turkey. No. I think that and the two pounds accounts for leftovers. But yeah, no, thank you. I barely eat I mean, I have a couple slices, but I have some slices. Yeah, I'm not eating 88% of people, they say, are eating turkey. Yeah, I would say that's I mean, because that's the tradition. Yeah. I think it was interesting as well about turkeys that they said that there were probably about 10 million turkeys in America when the Europeans started settling here. And that the reason it was probably popular is because turkeys are only good for meat. Cows and chickens are good for milk and eggs. So you didn't necessarily want to eat those right away. Oh. But turkeys weren't really practical. Bringing much to the table except bringing meat to the table. But they're a smart little guys. Not little, they're big. Have you ever seen a wild turkey? I have. A hen or a tom? You oh, yes. But then also when they're between when they're teenagers, they're Jen and Jack's. Wait, Jane. Jenny and Jane. Isn't that cute? Jenny, Jade and a Polt, I read a little baby turkey. But they're fast. They could run up to 25 miles per hour. Is that like their running start before they like Because they can fly. Yeah, that's what I mean. They can fly up to 55 miles per hour. Short, they're sprinters. They're but you but is that like their launch? They're like take a running start and then they launch, and then I think they just fall. Are they? They're very social. They're not not they're not nice to humans. They want nothing to do with humans. Well, yeah, because we eat them. We eat them. Yeah. But they have 20 different vocal variations, like the like the little turkey sound. And their necks and heads can change color depending on their emotional state. And like me. And wild turkeys sleep on trees. But they were a problem at my in-law's summer house. They weren't. The wild turkeys were roaming, roaming around. And so my mother-in-law tied Mylar strips to all their outdoor door handles, and that kept the wild turkeys away. Because they don't like shiny things. Oh. Yeah. So. Wow. I would be remiss if we didn't discuss preparing to. Yes, there are so many ways. Because, like we said, you could do a turkey breast. You could do like my mom and stuff the turkey, but we learned a new method from our good friend Jessica Gehrig, who's also our marketing whiz bank. She's trying a new method. She's going to order her turkeys. Spatchcock. This is a thing. Apparently, it's all the rape. Okay, so I was reading about it and it kind of makes sense. It makes so much sense. Come on, spatchcock. Couldn't we find it? Couldn't we call it butterfly? But because that's essentially what it is. It's like butterflying it. Yeah. Removing the bathbone so it lays flat and it cooks faster. Yeah, I think it's like an hour or two. Yeah. Why do we have to call it spatchcocking?

SPEAKER_01 28:16

That's a joke.

Gratitude For Listeners

Highs And Lows: Back Pain And Street Repair

SPEAKER_00 28:19

Poor turkey. Been throwing up. Poor the person who has to order that. Because that's uncomfortable. Unless this is like a joke that butchers are like, let's see how many people actually say it. And they're like, oh my god, they did. We never thought people would go for this. Maybe it's like a butcher joke. Maybe. I'll ask next time. Come on, level with me. This isn't a thing, right? You guys are just doing this to laugh at us. But our friend said it was delicious turkey. She's ordered hers for Thanksgiving and she's gonna serve it to her family. Curious to hear how it turns out. Aren't you curious to try it? Well, I'm curious, like if somebody's at the table and they're like, oh, this is delicious. How did you make this? And then step one. Spatchcock. I wonder if a lay person could spatchcock their own turkey. Oh, I think you could spatcock anything. Or if you need to be trained. Like, how hard is it to pull the bone the background? I think you could Google it. I think you could YouTube that. Yeah. I don't know if I have the right tools. I don't know if I'd like to watch it. I know. Well, now after this is over, I'm totally gonna watch a video of spatchcocking. I feel like that would be like a parental alert if my children start Googling. I'm gonna die first if it's okay. I'll get permission. I'll put in the code. Oh my goodness. Well, no matter how you enjoy your turkey, I hope you enjoy it this week. We're thankful for all our listeners out there. We are thankful for all our listeners. This has been a fun little passion project of ours. And thank you to all our listeners for helping us keep it going. Indeed. Should we high and low? Let's go. I did something to my back. What? I don't know what I did. Well, I know what I did, but I don't know what harm it's done. I have a bad back anyway. Yes. So I have scoliosis to begin with, and it's pretty curvy. And without disclosing too much, after I'm done showering, I like to in the words of Willow Smith, whip my hair back and forth in the shower to get the water out. I stand in the shower. Do you comb it out first? No. I just whip like three times, like over, back, over, back, over, back. And that really helps get the water out. And then I give it a nice squeeze. Uh-huh. And then one more time, and then I wrap it in a towel.

SPEAKER_01 30:40

So three three whips. A squeeze. They've been doing this for years. Oh, yeah. Okay. Did you leave this somewhere? I don't know. I know how I or what?

SPEAKER_00 30:53

Why three whips? I don't know. Let's see if this, you know, the rule of threes. I don't know. So yesterday I was mid semi-lip. And I out loud go, oh my back.

SPEAKER_01 31:07

And I hurt my back. My lower back. I'm like hurt my back. Yesterday's move right now. Oh, so I'm right below that.

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It's like right or L5. It's like in my hip. It's like QL. So not my spine. It's kind of between my hip bone and my spine. Oh, and I had to put an icy hot dash on. And I was like, oh no. And plus my hair was still wet. I want to get my towel in there. I was in a real pickle. That's my low. What are the chances that we would have two coras with two bows with your back? Oh. Put your back into that's what I did. You put your back into it? You could do it? Okay to get it. Don't stop. Hit it. What happened because I was removing our spring flowers from our flower beds because even though they were still going strong, it's November. Yeah. So I put the shovel in and I stood on it, kind of jumped on it a little bit, and I was popping these buddy babies out. Yeah. Oh no. And something over, yeah. I didn't feel it happen right away, but then I was doing some raking.

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This is how you rake.

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You have a very high grip on your rake.

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It's like, oh, you work. I have to hold it at the top. That's how I exercise.

Birthday Dinner Joy And Closing

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It's part of the problem. So yeah, I told Ryan yesterday, I was like, God, I think there's something wrong. I felt so good running. Can you? I don't know what I could have done to my back. And he said, What about all that raking and sh popping the plants out? And I was like, just yeah, that that's it. That was 100% it. So it was really painful yesterday. And I put an icy hot patch on it. And then I had a heating pad. I was at a heating pad as well. Yes. And so now it's not radiating pain so much, but there's this like one spot where I'm like, oh yeah, this is this is where my back hurts, but it's like bizarre. Did you whip your hair today? It's more of like, yeah, I did, because I had to, otherwise it's gonna be drippy all over the place. And then it takes too long for my hair to dry. Oh then I was talking to my dad about it, hoping for some sympathy. He's like, yeah, older you get, the more stuff like that happens. I was like, ooh. Yeah, and I was on a run this morning with another friend of ours, and she said the same thing. Oh, thank like your dad, yeah. It's lie to me. Just say something encouraging. It's like, wow, you're so good at whipping your hair after the show. At first, I was wondering why you're giving us that information, and now it makes total sense and adds to the story. Yeah. Um, what was your high? My high was our street is put back together mostly. It's paid. I know. It's it's been a journey. Thank you for being along there with me. The street has four out of six layers paved. We won't get the last two till the springtime. That's fine. Street is paved. We have sod on our parkway, so that's not torn up. And as I was leaving to do the podcast, they were putting our pavers, our bricks back in on the on the driveway, and all the construction, like the road clothes signs are down, everything. It's like back to the city. So you're gonna do very car wash. Well, it's very muddy right now from the sod. So I might wait till the weekend because I'm like, I just I cannot wait to get that car washed. Oh, I'm glad for you, especially before like all this snow and crummy weather comes. How about you? My high was John's birthday dinner last night. We had a wonderful dinner with my parents to celebrate his birthday, and Ryan's parents celebrated him when he was in Wisconsin last week. Um but on his birthday list, he had four of Mike's pals listed as people he'd like to share in his birthday dinner. So we had all the fellas over after football. He just wanted to be with the big kids. He just wanted to be with the big boys, and they couldn't have been nicer. That's really told jokes with them and played games with them, and they all sat at the table, and Ryan and I were sitting in the kitchen while they were in the dining room, just laughing our heads off. I mean, nobody was on screens, everybody was engaged. It was just it was a stretch for me to have them because I know they have such a long week and I felt bad imposing, but oh my gosh, was it good for so it was so funny? What's that? And he was so happy. He yeah, oh I'm sure he felt like MVP. Oh, 100 likes. VIP, like, yeah. So this is 10. Oh, 10. 10, yeah. That's amazing. And that's a good way to end, right? We'll go out on a high. Because we gotta work on our backs. Yeah, we do.

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All right. Bye. Bye.