Our Topic was Skating...but our Brains Had Other Ideas

The first big snow didn’t drift in; it dropped like a hammer. We swap white‑knuckle drives and holiday detours, laugh about leaves buried under ice. Then curiosity takes over: a Japanese “human washing machine” promises micro-bubble bliss, London falls for Trader Joe’s totes, and a beauty headline reignites the parasite cleanse debate. 

A canned sparkling “Proscato” becomes our most honest taste test yet—more kid champagne than prosecco—and somehow the gateway to better bubbles, French 75s, and the idea that tiny, low‑stakes experiments can rescue a dark afternoon. From there we glide into skating: roller rinks in unfinished basements, first crushes with wallet chains and Stüssy, and the jump from rollerblades to ice. We dig into the history, from bone blades on frozen lakes to the Dutch metal revolution, and why hockey is double talent—edge control plus puck sense—in a sport that rewards grit and grace.

The emotional center lands with our highs and lows: the churn of family life, the longing for even ground, and a blissful surprise spa night with hot pools, cold plunges, and one unforgettable massage miscommunication. It’s a winter survival guide disguised as a hang with friends—part science, part nostalgia, and a lot of heart. If you’ve ever tried to keep a house feeling like Christmas while the snow stacks and schedules wobble, this one’s for you.

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Transcript

Catch-Up, Holidays, And First Snow

SPEAKER_01 0:07

Hi, thanks for joining us today. It's Nora. And Nora. Yeah, here we are. We're terribly sorry we left you hanging last week. Hopefully, it was an opportunity to get caught up on maybe an episode you've missed or one of your favorites. Re-listen to it. Yeah, it's like time just slipped away from us, but we're back on track. We are. Grateful as ever and happy to be here. Yes. What's new? How was your Thanksgiving? My gosh, Thanksgiving. When was Thanksgiving? Was it last year? It really does get swallowed, but Christmas. It does. We had a quiet Thanksgiving. Mike and Elle were in Scottsdale with my parents, living their best lives. So it was just the four of us. Ryan was getting over a cold that Elle originally had, and then I got, and he got. So yeah, it was quiet. It was nice. We tried to celebrate all together Friday once the kids landed, but that didn't really work very well. Yeah. So it kind of came and went, and it was a nice kind of reset before we jumped into the Christmas season. How about you guys? We had a quiet one as well because I had to work and Aiden had to stay home because we weren't sure about football. So we didn't want to buy him a ticket. And so it turns so Al and the younger three went to New York to be with his family. And Aiden and I had a little week at home. Was it fun? We had a nice time. We did do a Thanksgiving just the six of us, like two weeks before Thanksgiving on Sunday. That's right, yeah. And that was delightful. I think I talked about that. Did you make a turkey? Yeah. We made a turkey breast. Yeah, that's close enough. Aiden and I had a nice week. We went and saw Zootopia 2. I've heard really good weeks about that. Aiden and I saw Zootopia 1 together when it came out 10 years ago. Oh it was kind of sweet. We went and saw that together. We watched Stranger Things. We watched a lot of TV we can't watch when the little ones are home. What's Stranger Things Again? It's it takes place in the 80s and it's a town where weird things are happening. The little girl with the shaved head. Sounds strange. Yeah. Stranger Stranger Things. That is not a good description of it. So we started watching that. We watched Frankenstein. So we watched a lot of TV, but we had a nice time. Spooky TV. Spooky TV, which is not really my jam.

SPEAKER_00 2:21

But I did it for him.

Winter Storms And Travel Chaos

SPEAKER_01 2:22

That's an amazing mom you were, obviously. So, but it was it was nice to spend time with him because I feel like a lot of the time with him is transactional and eye-rolly and not always quality. So it was very nice. And then it was me and him and my parents for he and I were like Al and Mike to dinner with my parents. And then everybody got home on Friday. I was grateful they got home before the big snowstorm. That was my next question. Yes. Okay. We dodged the storm too because my travelers got home Friday and then my dad got home Sunday. Okay. But hello winter. Hello winter. It certainly didn't give us much time. No. It was just like dump. Did you do the shoveling or the snowblowing or anything? I did not because I was at work on Sunday. Oh, okay. Got it, got it. But the drive to work was scary.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

It was it was not great. There and back. It was one of those like white knuckle, turned down the radio, driving really slow.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

Elle has lady that she shovels for in the neighborhood. That's kind of her winter job. And wow, she she earned it to town. Yeah. And then Ryan was out there.

SPEAKER_00 3:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:32

Almost hourly. The snow didn't stop falling, people.

SPEAKER_00 3:35

I know. It just kept coming. My brother was in Phoenix for the Thanksgiving and he got stranded and he was like, Is it really that bad? I was like, Yeah. Yeah. I sent him a screenshot of my ring camera view because I was like, I'm not going outside. It's still bad.

SPEAKER_01 3:50

It's still snowy. And then still snowing. Snowing. Like every once in a while, I'm like, what? More? I think this is here to stay. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 3:59

I don't think it's gonna melt. But there's still a lot of leaves under the snow. Al was very stressed about this. He was like, I didn't get a chance to rake. He's like, what should I do? I was like, you nothing. I don't know. You're not gonna get shoveled in the lot.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

And get the leaves. He's in a pickle. He's I'm like, this would just in God's hands. Can we switch gears? Sure. I have been thinking about this story for almost a week. Okay. And I've been looking forward to talking to you about it. I'm glad to hear it. Have you heard about the Japanese human washing machine? I thought maybe you What? It's like your daily bath reinvented.

SPEAKER_02 4:45

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 4:46

And it's still in the testing phases. Okay. It's eco-friendly. It only uses 10 liters of water per 15 minutes. Okay. Which I don't know. I'm sure a shower uses way more. And it won't be available for residential purchase until they say 2030. It surely isn't that long. But you jump into a pod.

unknown 5:08

Really?

SPEAKER_01 5:08

I'm imagining this.

Leaves Under Snow And Household Fixes

SPEAKER_00 5:10

So on the Disney cruise, they have an automatic hand washer. You stick your hands in, and there's brushes in there, and soap and water sprays, and it washes your hands and you take them out. So I'm I'm wondering if this is a similar thing.

SPEAKER_01 5:23

This is like a giant pod that you jump in. Can you watch the video? Yes. We're gonna pause. I want to watch this video. Okay. Okay, forgive the little pause, but I needed to have more information. Did I do an okay job explaining it? Yes. This thing, it looks like kind of like a tape dispenser. You know, like that's a great way to describe it. A tape dispenser with a lid on it. I would get worried that the lid would malfunction and I'd be stuck in a bubble. Yes, I thought the same thing. What if you can't get the lid open? But inside of it is not only water and tiny bubbles to clean you to your pores, according to the video, but there's a video screen so you could watch a move. I like being in the shower to not watch. I think it would make it difficult for you to do your hair whip.

SPEAKER_00 6:08

Oh god, yeah, the hair whip would be gone. But my back would feel great.

The Japanese Human Washing Machine

SPEAKER_01 6:13

This also, you would need a really large bathroom. Also, I wondered if they have a little drying pot. Wouldn't it be nice if you could pop in and it would just dry your hair quickly and it would like all your parts? That is interesting. Speaking of international news, Nora, it's a little bit of a fashion story. Have you seen the dress that Miss Norway wore? No. To the Miss Universe pageant? Well, you know, Norway is known for its fishing and its fishing sea life. So this woman in there? She wore a salmon dress. So she looked like a salmon, and then it opened up into a sheer bodysuit, and the salmon costume was a little cape. That is the ugliest thing I have ever used for creativity. Did she win?

SPEAKER_00 7:06

No. I think Miss Mexico won. There was a lot of scandal this year at the Mission University.

SPEAKER_01 7:11

Did you watch it? Or did you just see that? I just read the story. When I heard international and fashion, I thought you were going to talk about the Trader Joe's bags that are going to be lazy in London. The regular size Trader Joe's canvas bags are all the rage in London right now. But they don't have Trader Joe's in London, do they? So that's part of the Oolala factor. It would be like if we're like had Harrod's bags. Yes, but they are selling for over hundreds of dollars. Whoa. Just to carry around the I will say British people love a tote. Love a tote. But a Trader Joe's tote from the grocery store? So I'm trying to think of grocery stores in the UK. It would be like if I had a just like, oh, I have a Marks and Spencer's tote bag. Yeah. Ooh la la. Yep. And that's what they're doing. It's like a big thing. Oh, that's funny. Yeah. So the uh this is so gross, I almost don't even want to bring it up. Heidi Klum was interviewed because she did a worm cleanse. No, she did not. To cleanse her body of parasites and worms. Did she have worms in her body? Well, this is because so the headline was catchy because it said she revealed she was planning a worm cleanse. And at first I was like, wait, she's eating worms to cleanse. But no, apparently she's worried. Worms crawl all over you. She's worried, you know, I'm going to de-worm and de-parasite for the first time. And she's like, everything on my Instagram feed is about worms and parasites.

SPEAKER_00 8:45

And, you know, you could have eggs in your body from foods you eat and yet this, that, and the other thing. And so she did this, and she's like, Oh, you have to weird eat and drink, you have to drink this weird stuff, and it's yucky, and you have this routine and it kills everything, and then everything comes out of you.

SPEAKER_01 9:04

But at the end of this, a doctor, a registered dietitian, said at the Cleveland Clinic. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 9:12

She says, I really hope these cleanses don't become popular. There's just no credible evidence to show that they work and they can bring big health risks.

Salmon Dress And London’s Tote Obsession

SPEAKER_01 9:22

Well, sure, because I feel like you're definitely upsetting like your GI micro. Yes. And if what happens, what I think happens, you're gonna be like dehydrated and it doesn't your body know how to cleanse on its own? I would think so. Yeah. So give your body a little credit, Heidi. Heidi, you look great. You're right. Like what take a break. And if there's a worms and parasites in that body wasn't her nickname The Body? I think that was her like supermodel name. You're doing just fine. Yeah. Maybe thank those worms, parasites, for doing keeping you up in such good shape. It's bizarre. No, thank you. Okay, so you know what else is bizarre? Oh what? You have brought to the studio a glove. I brought a glove. Or it's a mitten. I it's a mitten with my little peekaboo. What is under or in that magnet? I found this and I don't think it's gonna be good. I'm just saying that from the jump. Okay. Which I hate when people say that, but it's a can of prosecco. Why do you think it won't be good? I don't know. Oh, I think anything with bubbles. It's called proscato. It's semi-sweet bubbles, carbonated wine. So it's it's chill. Where did you find that? They found it at Macy's. Wait, like the apartment store? I go there a lot on my breaks. Okay, but that's surprising. I have a quite a large liquor section. At Macy's? Yes. Can you sip and shop? No. You can't drink. Only at Mariano's can you do that. So thank you for providing festive glasses. Who knew I was gonna need to use them? I nut. Fill me up, Buttercup. All right. So one can is 375 milliliters, which is equal to two and a half glasses. So I mean, you're getting, and it costs six dollars. You know what I like about this? A lot of times when I open a bottle of champagne or a prosecco or anything with bubbles, that's good, that's good. Okay. It's 8 30 in the morning. No kidding. I feel forced to drink the entire bottle. Oh, right. Yeah, 100%. Well, I can smell it, it smells very sweet. Very sweet. Cheers. Cheers. Oh. Oh man, it smells like apple juice. Oh man. Okay, let's go for it. You know what it tastes like? Dirt? No, it tastes like martinelli's or whatever the sparkling appling sign is. Martinelli's, yeah, no, that. Or like Welches. You know the kid we call it kid champagne? Yeah. That's what it tastes like. It kind of smells like spoiled apple juice. It doesn't taste like it has any alcohol in it, I'll tell you now. It doesn't taste like wine. Oh, I see why it's called Proscato. Because the winemaker's name is Paul Scato. Well, that's clever. Yeah. It's not great though. I don't think it's terrible. You know what this would be good for? Mimosas. Because I always feel bad wasting good champagne or or uh bubbles on mimosas. You know, I don't often drink a mimosa because sometimes I feel bad wasting the orange juice.

SPEAKER_00 12:34

Correct.

SPEAKER_01 12:34

Like I'll just have to use it.

SPEAKER_00 12:35

I'd rather just have bubbles. Same. Well, I feel bad because I did buy it being like, this isn't gonna be good, but we should try it. Oh, golden apple. Inviting fragrance includes honeysuckle, ripe golden apple, and white tropical fruits. And white what? White tropical fruits.

unknown 12:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 12:53

Coconut. I don't know. I don't taste any notes of coconut. Same z's. But you know, good try. I don't think I wouldn't serve it.

SPEAKER_00 13:03

I wouldn't serve it either. And I I don't think I would drink it on the regular.

SPEAKER_01 13:07

No, it's just very sugary. But I like that it comes in a can.

SPEAKER_00 13:11

It's clever.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

It is, it's cute.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

I had a delicious drink with my sister the other night. It's called a French 75.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

I love a 575.

SPEAKER_00 13:19

I why where have these been all my life?

SPEAKER_01 13:22

Well, I had I learned about them at a local restaurant. Okay. But yeah, they're great. It's champagne or prosecco gin and then something else. And then you can do it with vodka too.

unknown 13:33

Oh.

Parasite Cleanses Debunked

SPEAKER_01 13:34

If you swallow sometimes they serve it with a vodka. I liked the gin. Gin makes you angry. I know, but it was mixed with the prosecco and it was fine. I had two. Oh, hello. That was a no. Where were you celebrating something? That's my high.

SPEAKER_00 13:46

I'll get to that later.

SPEAKER_01 13:48

That's a little, you know, a little uh teaser. Yeah, there's a local restaurant in LaGrange Park that hasn't on their menu. It was it's exciting, it's so good. And then I have a little oopsie from our last podcast. No. I got my musicals crossed. Remember I was talking about turkey lurky time? Yeah, I do. Yeah. So I said it was from Promises Promises, but I gave the wrong synopsis of the musical.

SPEAKER_00 14:11

I got it crisscrossed with the musical Sweet Charity. Promises prom Sweet Charity is about a call girl who falls in love with somebody. And that's where Turkey Lurky Time is from.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 14:22

Promises Promises is a totally different musical.

unknown 14:27

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 14:27

Oh wait, no. I'm still doing it. That's okay. Promises Promises has Turkey Lurky Time, not about a call girl. Sweet Charity has big spender. Okay. Anyways, I just had, you know, for all our Broadway buffs out there, want to keep things on the up and up.

Proscato In A Can Taste Test

SPEAKER_01 14:43

Okay. Well, thank you for catching that because you know the reality is I wouldn't have to be. You know, what did you say, Winter? Gene! You should totally do a podcast. We'll be back in a moment. Twas the beginning of December at Mike Haggerty Buick GMC. Not a creature was stirring, not even the Hummer HV. Their inventory was parked on 93rd in Cicero with care in hopes that customers soon would be there. It's the season of savings, and there are so many ways. Make your way to the showroom to see the display. And the enclaves are here, and the Yukons are too. Come see for yourself if there's something for you. If you don't live in Oakland, no worries at all. This sales event has something for all. Visit their website. You'll be there in a flash. If you buy for a gift, they'll wrap with a sash. This is the place for service and deals. Mike Haggerty Buick GMC is full of holiday steals. And now back to the show. All right. Our topic today is skating. Wait, let me fill out my glass. Oh yeah, I'm so glad you. I'm gonna get you a full six pack. No, from Scott. There's probably 422 grams of sugar in there.

SPEAKER_00 16:03

No, I think it's fat-free. Totally. Oh, it's totally fat-free.

SPEAKER_01 16:06

No calories.

SPEAKER_00 16:07

No calories at all.

SPEAKER_01 16:09

You said skating. Q said this had a horrific aftertaste, and I filled up my glass. Well, that's maybe because you haven't had an afterdate. You still have the current days. The present days. Oh god, that almost came out my nose. Yeah. Skating. We're talking about skating. Skating. Can I I don't drink and skate. Don't drink and skate. This is totally has, and I didn't even write this in my notes, but remember that Everett song, Skater Boy? Yeah, said see you later, boy. It always bothered me that she spelled boy with an I. Boy? Yes, it's it's skater. Was she drinking for Scott? She might have been. But it's a skater. B-O-I. Boy. And it always bothered me. Why would she do that? What's wrong with that? She should have just put a Y. Speaking of Skater Boys, I had a huge crush on a skater.

SPEAKER_00 17:06

I had a couple skater boy crushes too.

SPEAKER_01 17:09

His name was Bart Rawlings. Did he have a wallet chain? Yeah. Yeah. And a Steussy shirt. Yeah. Love 311. Totes and Sublime. Yes. He had spiky hair. He was hot. We took a picture of him on a disposable camera the last day of school. Oh. Never mind that I never mind that I grew up with him since the fourth grade. Yeah. Yeah. He just needed to find his niche, his people. Yeah, he was hot. Do you know where he is now? Yeah, he's actually living. It's the CEO of it. He's actually living in one of my high school friends' parents' house. Oh, okay. He's not in the baseline. Living in a baseline is he still in a wallet. This is not in my notes. Bart Rawlings was not in my notes. He married a lovely girl from overseas, and she's a skater girl. I don't think so. No. Oh, from overseas. Yeah. And they have two girls. Oh. And yeah. He lost the spikes. He's still cute. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, good for Bart. It's sad that I don't want to say the name of my Snoopy lives in Chicago. And to all my old school ride or dies that listen to this. They're all blushing right now. We called his house once. Oh, sure. Yeah. He was cute. Yeah. Bart Rawlings. Bart Rawlings. I never had a chance. He was a skater boy. He was a skater boy. You said that. I did not want to. I'm assuming you were the girl she was singing about in the song. No, I didn't want to say see you later, boy. You were like, I want to be like, let's go out and go for dinner, boy. I don't go out to dinner. I just roll. You go to the skate park. Skate park. I was gonna say you pop wheelies, but no. Or no, ollies. Does he shred? He shreds on a skateboard. This could have been a problem. There was like a whole group of like skater boys. They were funny. They were really funny. Some of them are really cute. Wait, is this-there were skater boys at NAS? And how about like it? Because they would wear pretty baggy. Jenko. J N K O. Well, they couldn't. I think was it a C or a K? I don't remember. Oh, maybe. Yeah. But they had, I mean, they had to wear their like uniform pants, but they're they were definitely baggy. So on out of uniform days, they went full skater mode. So good. But they would wear short sleeve button-down shirts, but they had to wear a tie. So good. Like a uniform skater boy. So would the skater boys with the vology. Wait, but the skater boys couldn't wear jeans. No. They were giant khakis. Nothing says skater die, like giant ching. Uniform code giant pointed tally. They were just like a loose. They were too big. They wore khakis that were too big. It was short sleeve. But skaters were short sleeved, the rest was on sleep. Because they would wear a t-shirt underneath it, so you'd see like the t-shirt and a lot of necklaces. Chain. Yeah. Some hem. Yeah. Hems. Some chain. Shells, maybe? More ham. Shells. Definitely maybe like, oh, what kind of soap do you use? Because I've never smelled that before. And I was like, oh, now I know what that is. Yeah. We had another real cute skater, Jake Kalaric. Oh. He married a lovely girl and they were in our preschool class at church. Oh. And I bet he's still good looking. Yeah. Yeah. I hope they still have the wallet chains. Oh, yeah, those were a thing. You gotta.

SPEAKER_00 20:57

I mean, if you were a skater boy in high school, like please tell me you have your wallet chain.

SPEAKER_01 21:02

Wait, are you even a skater if you don't have a lot of people? No. Yeah. I don't know how they like roll their skateboard. We're not even talking about skateboarding. Or is our episode high school crushes that never would have happened? Did two Norris just go totally off script? Oh, we totally did. Yeah. But I do like I remember listening to 311 because they were like talking about it. Wait, so you had a skater crush too? I did. He asked me to homecoming, but I wasn't allowed to go to homecoming. Why? Because my mom wouldn't let me go. What? I know. So were you in trouble? No. No. I I couldn't go at all. He asked me to homecoming, and I was like, oh my God, my little skater boy crush. And then I said no. And then Did you tell him why? Yeah, I was like, my parents won't let me go. Okay, okay. I didn't want him to think that you were big time in him. No, never. And we were always very friendly, but yeah, I missed my chance. Where is he now? I don't know. Can you google him? Not now, not. Well, we totally are. Tune in to after because you know another one of my high school brushes. I was kids at our school. This I know. That was embarrassing. That was a real well. I wouldn't be embarrassed to see this guy, but the other guy, I'm constantly like, oof, cringe. That happens sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 22:16

Can we talk? Should we talk about skating?

Skating, Crushes, And 90s Nostalgia

SPEAKER_01 22:24

You're not taking that out, are you? Never. No. I might just repeat it. I'm gonna copy it and paste it. Can we talk about rollerblading? Oh taking it back to middle school. Okay. I've never rollerbladed. I was a huge rollerblader. Get out. Lightning TRS was like the creme de la creme. Wow. We would go to Sidewalk Surfer, which was Sidewalk was a skate shop. Oh and that's where I get that. I got my rollerblades. I apparently Sheesh and G Mike were all about rollerblading because I had nice rollerblades ones. Like neon green wheels. They were they were a vibe.

SPEAKER_00 23:06

I had roller, I loved roller skating. I never rollerbladed, but I loved roller skating.

SPEAKER_01 23:11

You did? Loved it. I had an unfinished basement. And so we would roller skate in our basement. I don't have any childhood memories of going to skating rinks. Did you ever go to one? In California, we went a lot. In Pennsylvania, there was an outdoor skating rink. I remember holding hands with Brendan Bernie. Was he a skater?

SPEAKER_00 23:30

And Matt Easton at the roller skating rink. Not at the same time.

SPEAKER_01 23:33

Oh wow. Oh yeah, that kind of Nora. Third grade with Brendan Bernie and then fourth grade. Another pescado. Holding hands like the couple skate. Outdoor roller rink in Pittsburgh. Yeah. But but you couldn't go to homecoming. No. I think my parents were like, she's fast. It's couple skating in fourth grade. We got to pump the brakes. Smart. Smart. And then in Chicago, not as much. They were not in roller skating parties. So my next door neighbor, Allison Herbert, who I am still friends with to this day, all these years later, her mom, well, I guess she bought me roller skates for my birthday that I wanted desperately. I couldn't have been more than, I don't know, seven or eight. Yeah. And they were white roller skates with pink wheels. And I loved them. But then it seems like they never made it to Arizona. Because your parents were all about the blades. Were they roller skates on their way out? I think they peaked in like the late 80s.

SPEAKER_00 24:29

And then when rollerblades took because all my friends had rollerblades. And then if they were rollerblading, I would do roller skates.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

Okay, so I wonder because you had an older sister. I think so, probably. You were so cool because matching roller skates. Because you got all the cool stuff because she had it. Yeah, but then I was also a little behind.

SPEAKER_00 24:47

Like because then when she kind of was grown up, and then my friends had rollerblades, I was like, stick in with the roller skates.

SPEAKER_01 24:54

Stay true. It's I think a bumpier ride on a roller skate. Because I remember like Well, you have to lean forward to stop. So you can either face plant, you can drag your toe, the toe stopper behind you. Oh. Yeah. I didn't know that was at the time. No, yeah. Totes. I was in a play and I had to wear roller skates in the play.

SPEAKER_00 25:15

It was called Leading Ladies, and I played this kind of like bimbo character, which is way outside my typical casting. Oh my gosh, that would be so funny.

SPEAKER_01 25:22

I do have it. Do you have it queued up? No, I don't have pictures, but I had to wear roller skates in the play and roller skate around. And then there was one scene I had to climb upstairs in the roller skates. So I had to like be on the stoppers. And it was a little terrifying. So not only did you have to know your lines and deliver them. Yes. You had to roller skate. I did. Did it come back? Is it like riding a bike? Yeah. Okay, why am I still drinking this? I don't know. You love a pescado. I don't know. I just Why not? Oh, it kind of smells. Anyways. Don't smell it. I'm not. Yeah, I think that's the problem. I gotta stop smelling. But that, and then there's another musical called Starlight Express where everybody has roller skates on.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

And because they're trains. It's like a musical, like a people with trains? Yes. A child is kind of like imagining like a big train race, and the actors are the trains and they're on roller skates.

SPEAKER_01 26:17

Huh.

SPEAKER_00 26:17

Which is cool. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:18

I've seen it twice. Did your kids rollerblade, roller skate, roller anything? Kevin rollerbladed because he wanted to learn how to ice skate.

SPEAKER_00 26:25

And so it's tough to practice ice skating at home. So he would rollerblade in our garage to learn. But I think what's hard about rollerblading places is then you have to, if you want to go in a store, you need to bring shoes with you.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

This is true. But you can tie them, tie your shoes and hang them out. Oh, like I then they're heavy though, right? I guess if you want you. Oh gosh. So what do you how do you feel about ice skating? I don't know how I personally feel about ice skating. But I know that I love that my neighbors and dear friends of ours had an ice skating rink. I never ice skated on it, but I liked their warming hut. Yes. That was nice. The minks rinks and drinks parties off the chains. Yes. Wallet chains. My uncle used to do that in his background. We did? Yeah. I I skated when I was little at the Oaklawn Arena. Yeah, at the Oaklawn Ice Arena. Yeah. But then I didn't graduate to the next level. And then I guess we just skate. Then we were done. Yeah. What do you think about ice skating? I think it's fun. Okay. My kids It's a little scary at first. My kids didn't know how to ice skate when we moved here. Yeah. Well, partially because one of them was 18 months old. Um but that was kind of a learning curve. It's a whole different thing. Well, also because it's cold. Yeah. And it's because you're like, this is gonna hurt if I fall. Yeah, like rollerblades, rollerblades. Well, they knew that like right off jump because you're just always looking for one more activity to do outside. But yeah, ice skating. It burns a lot of calories.

SPEAKER_00 28:01

Yes. Yeah, because you're cold, so you're like your body's gonna be a little bit more than a little bit skating.

Rollerblades, Rinks, And Stage Skates

SPEAKER_01 28:06

Hockey hockey gets me because it's like it's double talent. You have to be able to skate and you have to be able to keep your eye on heaven. Um he took ice skating lessons so he could do hockey. I wish honestly he would do hockey over football. You do? He has lovely tip. Oh I mean, you want to risk lose? That's true. But you could lose those in football too, can't you? I mean, I think you're more likely to get concussed. Concussed in football and lose teeth in hockey? Yeah. Although maybe you could get concussed in football or in a hockey. Yeah, you could. You get in a fight. Nobody wants their their baby in a fight. No, I don't. No. Golf. Golf. There we go. Solves all the problems. But back in the day, and I'm talking, you know, 5,000 years ago. Oh gosh, I was hoping you had this. People would ice skate using animal bones as the blades in which they would skate on. Like we're they would like sharpen up a little bit. Can I can I interrupt you? Yeah, please. So you mean they're sitting around the cave? Yeah. Drinking mold wine. You don't know whatever you make from berries. Yeah. And they're like, I get maybe pretty popping friscado. And they're like, hey, I think we should debone that animal, sharpen its rib, and put it on our feet. I would imagine they weren't doing it for fun. I would have a feeling they were like, oh, lake frozen over, how we cross lake slippery. And they're like, oh must sharpenly take rib bone and sharpen and glide. Yes, yes. Fun and exercise. And fast.

SPEAKER_00 29:48

I think that's exactly how it went.

SPEAKER_01 29:50

I think, yeah. I think I was the yes man and you were the chief. But then the Dutch, they were like, oh, maybe met in the 14th century. Which is the 1500s. 1300s. Ah, it goes backwards. Yeah. Uh said metal blades. And then Scotland had the first figure skating league in the 18th century. And then they didn't have all steel skates until 1850. And what are they now? Steel. You think? I mean, I know they're not skateboardable. I don't know why I keep saying rib. I just think ribs. No, because I think that was a good place to start. If someone's like, here's a femur, make an ice skating blade out of this. You'd be like, Jesus. Oh, big feet. How much time do you think I have? Ribs were already probably flip-sized. Well, and you can kind of select a size. There's kind of a sizing chart. Yeah. They were using the femurs for baseball bats, so they did you grow up in the 1300s or something. Maybe in a past life. Do your kids ever say like in the 1900s? Yeah, like when they ask a question, like, okay, yes, but no. I know, but we did. We grew up in the 1900s. Yes. This is facts. This is this is not calf. No cap. Strange facts. Oh, Lordy. But this surprised me, Nora. Indoor ice rinks were as early as 1876 in London in 1879. So in the 1700s. 1800s. Not the 19th century. So 19th century, 1800s. Okay. They built a space. Yeah, indoor ice rink. But they weren't like putting in a hose. I don't know how they did it, but they had it. That's what I was asking. Yeah, I don't know. You weren't there. I wasn't there. Yeah. I was seeing I was caveman times.

unknown 31:34

Oh, right.

SPEAKER_01 31:35

I was like, once they moved to steel blades and like all the fun's out of it. That's right. You were skating across pond. Fun, effective. Mean go players.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

Proven pond frozen over. Must cross.

SPEAKER_01 31:45

And where was I? Puscato? You were in the 50s. Oh I was in the kitchen. Drinking your pescato. Oh, yeah. See, you know. But not with your hands. No, no, no. I actually we served meatloaf. I served meatloaf the other night. Love meatloaf. You had Ryan over, I think, for meatloaf one night. I mean, not just you. Me and Ryan had a meatloaf stupid.

SPEAKER_02 32:15

We invite a few.

Ice Skating History And Hockey Talk

SPEAKER_01 32:16

You had Ryan over dinner and you served peas. Peas as your vegetable with mashed potatoes. Yes. And I don't ever serve peas. And he was unsure how to capture the peas. Oh, how to like wrangle the peas. Yeah. It's like a backboard. It's like a game. It is. It's fun. Oh my lord. We're all over the place. From high school crushes to peas. I love peas. And every you do? I do. Yeah. Are they like is that a go-to? That's a go-to for me. I'll like some too. They're one of the least healthy vegetables. Seriously? Yeah, I think they're kind of close to a starch, which is probably why I like them. No kidding. You'd think they like pack a little punch. I mean, they definitely have some good qualities, but they're not. Well, that's the one that's a good thing. If you were like, oh, what's that? Yeah. Well, you burn calories when you're eating all my gotta get to them. Should we highly? I think so. My low. Did you bring your low? I did. Well, I have to because it's cold outside. Remember last year I broke my coat and you made fun of me because I was using carabiner to zip my coat. No, I don't remember it the same way. Okay. I remember you broke your coat and I noticed that you had a different zipper. And you were like, good for you. That looks great. I was thinking that you were. Well, it's gotten worse because I couldn't find my carabiner, so it's a paperclip. The pole on my zipper broke. I was desperate. It's cold outside. The coat that you're wearing costs as much as a mortgage payment. Yet you have a paperclip. It's a jumbo. It's a big paperclip. What are the chances you take it to my guy Luis to have him fix it? How do you fix it? I don't have I don't know if I still have the paper clip. You can't fix anything. I just need a poll because yeah, the paperclip is sad. It's a nice coat. That's an understatement. Yeah. What's your low? My low is that we've been on an emotional roller coaster here at our house. We've had some remarkable highs and some super low lows. And we're just like up and down and up and down. And I'm not used to that, especially with Thanksgiving and just life in general. My low is that we have not found common ground. Yeah. You're just looking for kind of even Stevens. Mm-hmm. We sure are. That's a lot. Yeah. And nothing to be concerned about, nothing to nothing to slip into our DMs about. It's just we have not had anything like it hasn't been calm. Yeah. So. Although I guess in theory, all the highs and all the lows would equal even. But it doesn't feel that way. No. So that is my law. It's a lot of emotion. It is. What about your high pressada? Again, like so many highs, so many lows. It's hard to pick just one. So I'm gonna go with something super general. That when my big kids got home last week, they said it feels like Christmas in here.

unknown 35:36

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 35:36

It's like fantastic. Like it felt like home. It felt like Christmas. I have a handful of gifts already wrapped and purchased. I have things ordered. So I'm in a good spot going forward for that Christmas season.

SPEAKER_00 35:49

Once you're in a good decorating spot, I have bought zero gifts. My high is I got kidnapped by my sister. I was in like the best way of.

SPEAKER_01 36:00

I love this already because she's so fun. So I was at work on Sunday and I finished at three. And I had like missed calls from my sister, and I had a text from her, and then I had a text from my husband that popped up right when I left the building. Said, We're good here. Go be with your sister. And I was like, Oh no, what happened? Called my sister. She's like, Can you be downtown at a spa by 4:15? I was like, What? She's like, It's my friend's birthday. Her husband has treated all of us to spa slash bathhouse, and someone had to cancel, and it's too late to invite someone else who's like our friend. Can you it's too late? It's too late to call in a bee blanks. Yes. Yeah. And she's, and obviously, like I would never expect to be invited to this otherwise. So I left work at three. I was downtown at 425. Wait, you left work at three. Did you jump on a train?

SPEAKER_00 36:56

No, I took an Uber.

SPEAKER_01 36:58

Oh, an Uber. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 36:59

Because I was Al was like, maybe you should take an Uber. He's like, because this is gonna be a lot. I was like, yeah, you're right. This place was like magical.

Peas, Coats, And Everyday Fixes

SPEAKER_01 37:07

It was pools, like jazuzis and saunas and different temperature pools, and then cold plunges. I love a cold plunge. It was great. And then it had like a jacuzzi. You could swim under a wall, and then it was a jacuzzi with a waterfall outside. Outside? Yes. Outside. It was like hot water, but you could like breathe in cold air. It's awesome. There's a salt scrub that you could do. Like, oh my god, my skin is a little bit more. Wait, you could salt scrub in the water? No, no, no, no, no. It was like shower stalls. Okay, thank you. And they were worried that you were salt. And you scrub it all over yourself because everyone's walking around in a bathing suit and then you rinse off. Okay. That makes me feel better. I was worried about some uh no. And then there was like a really salty pool that you could float in. And then I had an hour massage. This sounds fabulous. It was fabulous. Can I politely uh request that if you're not gonna do it? You want to be on the sub list, somebody? That's what I said to them. I was like, I am happy to be a sub anytime for you ladies. But I had a lovely massage, but it was a little awkward. Oh god. Because I had a male okay, well, and I said my lower backgrounds can't be choosers.

SPEAKER_00 38:16

He was lovely, but I said my lower back has been sore. And I think he misunderstood that for my glutes have been sore.

Highs, Lows, And A Surprise Spa Night

SPEAKER_01 38:25

Because I have never had anyone massage my glutes so vigorously for so long. It was a brand new experience. Have you ever had a glutes massage? As you know, I've been in physical for yes. Yes. But it was, I mean, yes, never felt better. But I was like, oh, this is a time on the old glute. That is a uh that is a routine practice for me. Yeah. It's like, oh. But we're kind of past that in physical their favorite. All business. But also, I would think like the lights are on, you're talking to her, like you know what's going on. All of a sudden, I was like, hey, that's my butt. Did you tell the seat over? Did you tell him like easy on the glutes? Buy a girl a drink first. I didn't even know. Like, that's not my lower back. I didn't know what to say. Maybe I had a slight on you. My sister and I were in the same room. So we were like, He's touching my butt. No, I couldn't see my face. Oh, right. But she walked in and got the female Miss Seuss but also older sisters. I know. She was I was like, I was worried the whole time you were gonna do something to me. And she's like, I thought about it. Well, that is A high of all highs. Yeah. Yeah. I'll be on that sub list too. I'll be even be a B list friend that you call last minute. I'll be in anything. It's such a treat. And such a oh my God. It just was like not how I thought my night was gonna go. It's even better. Oh my gosh. It was delightful. It was a really because sometimes, even though that's a fabulous thing to do, you're like, oh, one more thing on the calendar to get down there. Like the logistics. Yeah. But for it to be a surprise.

SPEAKER_00 40:24

Because even I was like, I don't know. I should go home. And then I was like, what is wrong with me? Yeah. But I got into Al was very nice and like booked the Uber for me. And the driver was like, Where are you going? I was like, I don't know. I was like, I know it's called this. It's called Air A-I-R-E. I was like, I don't know where it is. It sounds like you go back. I'm doing, I would, yeah, I have got to save all my my money and go.

SPEAKER_01 40:46

Well, maybe they could sponsor us. Oh, yeah. Well, we'll talk about that often. Yeah. In the meantime, should we wrap it up? Thanks for joining us. Bye. Bye.