This Episode is Fire

Fire is one of those words that sneaks into everything, and once we noticed it, we couldn’t stop. We start with the real-life stuff, the sprint to opening night for a school musical, a week packed with family events, and a little Chicago love with Wrigley Field’s 112th anniversary plus a truly wild baseball moment. Then we take a sharp left into the kind of pop culture details we can’t resist, including a New York Times crossword mistake that had puzzle people furious.

From there, we dig into two trends that say a lot about where we are right now: summer fashion and modern family design. We debate “messy girl” style, the return of early-2000s shimmer makeup, and the refreshing idea that the current pants trend is basically anything goes. Then we get into the bigger question: platonic co-parenting. We talk through what it means to choose a parenting partner without romance, how co-parenting apps like Modamily work, and why three-parent arrangements sound practical on paper but can get emotionally complicated fast.

Things get even stranger with a keepsake trend we can’t unsee: breast milk jewelry and baby hair jewelry. We ask the obvious questions, laugh at the marketing language, and try to figure out where sentiment ends and chaos begins. We wrap by coming back to fire in the literal sense, from childhood “firefort” memories and fireplace habits to firefighter family stories, quick fire history, and the way fire shows up in music and slang.

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Transcript

Welcome And Life Updates

SPEAKER_02 0:06

Hi, thanks for joining us today. It's Nora. And Nora. To those of you joining us for the very first time, welcome. And those of you who keep coming back for more, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 0:16

Welcome. Yeah, we're happy you're here. Remember last week when you said my name for me?

SPEAKER_02 0:20

Yeah, remember when I listened to it and cringed and wondered why you didn't take that out.

SPEAKER_01 0:26

Oh, my dad said it was our giggliest episode ever, he thought. And that's saying a lot because we've had some giggly ones. Well, we had a lot to catch up on. It was full disclosure on a Saturday evening or afternoon. And you know definitely had Saturday vibes about it. Which is funny sometimes. We are. Can't help ourselves. Uh, what's been going on? What's your story? Not all. My musical's in the home stretch. Great. When so this episode comes out Monday. So that means the musical is only four days away in podcast time. It opens May 1st. So I'm very, very excited. Ticket sales are going okay. I would like more people to buy more tickets. Notif. But it's it's coming along. The kids are in a really good place. Like they're doing a good job, and they're very cute, and they're ready for the next step. Like lights and sets and costumes and things. So they're right where they should be. How do you feel in terms of other musicals? Like, are you ahead of the game? Do you feel like they're in a better spot? This is the fourth one I've done. And I would say this is probably the most prepared the kiddos have been. Well, good. So I think that's all part of me like doing it for a while. We've got a lot of props ahead of time. So yeah, I think we're, I think we're in a good spot. Awesome. How about you? Happy for you. We just have a lot of moving pieces. By the time our listeners catch wind of this, hits the airwaves. Yes.

Wrigley Anniversary And Wild Baseball Moments

SPEAKER_02 2:00

Catherine, Grace, and Ryan will be back from their soccer trip that they're taking. They head out today. Junior Senior Prom will be behind us. Oh baby. Elle's birthday party will be behind us. So we have a lot of things. There's a lot of fun stuff. Yeah. A lot of fun things on the books for this week. And we have a lot of fun things on the books for this weekend.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

And uh this week's just been a lot of scrambling. But today, today is a special day. Oh, yes. Yeah for the Chicago Cubs. Do you know it's the 112th anniversary of Wrigley Field? Wow. 112 years, eh? Hey, she looks pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 2:38

She does look pretty good. I was like on a deep dive for baseball, apparently, because did you see this last night? The Mariner's pitcher got hit with a ball. No, no, he didn't get hurt. He was coming at 106 miles an hour.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

He did not get hurt, but he caught it in his jersey. So he went so like the slack of the jersey, like. No, it went inside. Like Oh, there was buttons. Yes. What? I know. What are we doing? He didn't get hurt.

SPEAKER_02 3:10

But it wasn't considered a catch.

SPEAKER_01 3:12

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 3:13

It was so it was considered a base hit. But if you watch the replay, it's funny to see him kind of like.

SPEAKER_01 3:20

He's like, oh no. That was nice that the you know, they didn't let the runner keep running until they found it in his shirt.

SPEAKER_02 3:34

If that happens, yeah. That it's a basis.

SPEAKER_01 3:38

Oh my gosh, that's so funny.

SPEAKER_02 3:40

I know. If a baseball at 108 miles an hour hit me, that was a steal.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

Oh man, right? Well, last night at my son's game, the umpire got hit with a ball, but he's got like the padded chest plate on. Yeah. But I I was sitting near where his water bottle was and couldn't help myself. I was like, Are you okay? Because they're just teenagers.

SPEAKER_02 4:03

Was he okay? He's like, Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm fine.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

I was like, I know. I hope you are.

SPEAKER_02 4:09

I think I would be terrible, uh terrible. Yeah. Because even if I play wiffle ball out front, like I got hit with a ball and it got a bloody nose.

Crossword Controversy And Game Show Hopes

SPEAKER_01 4:18

Oh no. Then it wasn't going nearly 108 miles an hour. Yeah. Oh no, I'm so sorry about that. I recovered. Oh good. I'm glad. Big scuttle butt in the crossword puzzle world. Oh, this is your these are your people. The New York Times magazine crossword puzzle was unsolvable. They had a mistake. Like the clues in the grid like weren't right. And uh the first time in 83 years it's ever had a problem. People were up in arms. So somebody creates it. Yep. And then there's gotta be some like checks. Yeah. So I don't know what happened, but I know it wasn't solvable.

SPEAKER_02 4:57

Do you think the checkers are like, uh, there isn't been a mistake in maybe three years? Or do you think those checkers catch the mistakes?

SPEAKER_01 5:05

I would think they take it pretty seriously. I wonder if they like I've done it before where I've sent the wrong attachment where I'm like, oh, that one wasn't updated. This is the updated one. Oh, that's true. Or sometimes do you proofread stuff and you read it how you think it should be instead of how it actually is? Like if 100% on there. Yikes. But did you solve that puzzle that day? No, I didn't do that one. I typically stay away from the Sunday puzzles because they're really hard. I would think that you would be really good at a. I don't know. I haven't tried a Sunday one in a while. Watch me like the first Sunday one be that one, and then I've been like, I can't do it.

SPEAKER_02 5:46

You know what's a bummer speaking of games? Is we never got picture for a wheel of fortune. Yeah.

Summer Trends And The “Messy” Look

SPEAKER_01 5:53

Where do we go wrong? I don't know. Let's go, Ryan Seacrass. Come on. Come on. I know. I keep hoping they'll reach back out, but I think that window has, in fact. There's two trends that I've heard about. Oh. What have you heard about? I have summer trends on my list. Is it Messy Girl trend? I have Vacation Core, but tell me about Messy Girl. Inspired by Coachella. And they said that this was a thing in the 2010s too, but just kind of like sloppy layers, layered necklaces, like messy hair.

SPEAKER_02 6:24

Right.

SPEAKER_01 6:25

Pull yourself together. I don't know. Is it a summer trend? I don't mind if it's kind of like if someone's like, oh my God, I just threw this on so I could get my stuff done. But to take the time to look messy. To be intentionally messy makes no sense to me. Seems like too much work. Like, why would you spend the time to get ready to look sloppy? Well, it kind of is on point with the summer trend of boho flowing and breathing. I always think of the Olsen twins.

unknown 6:50

Oh God, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:52

They are so scary because their clothes are so big and they're so small. And they're so small. They're like we both did this. We both did shoulders up, wide eyes, and like ghost movement. But soft pastel colors. I was on for that. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 7:05

But how about this? Welcome back 2000s with the shimmer and sparkle eyeshadows and glitter and rhinestones.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

Do you think you're gonna embrace it? No. I don't think I could pull off sparkly eyeshadow anymore.

SPEAKER_02 7:19

Did you ever get that like sparkly shimmer eyeshadow when you were in high school, early college that was like stackable?

SPEAKER_01 7:26

No. Like a mall kiosk. I don't think I wore eyeshadow. I definitely didn't wear it in high school. I don't think I wore that much makeup in college.

SPEAKER_02 7:35

It was like these little containers and they stacked up in different colors and they were like shimmery shadows that you'd use to like enhance your makeup.

SPEAKER_01 7:44

Oh, it was like an overlayer. Yeah. Cute. I was all about the shimmer and the glitter. Are you gonna bring it back? Oh, not the way I did in the 2000s. That's for sure.

SPEAKER_02 7:55

Nobody wants to see that.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

Modified.

SPEAKER_02 7:58

Good news for those who can't commit to a pant trend because the pant trend is anything goes.

Platonic Co-Parenting And Three Parents

SPEAKER_01 8:04

Love it. Skinny, wide leg cargo, high rise, low rise, you do you. Yeah. I like that. Remember the craze where you could see your bottom? The butt crack? Oh, when people pull out their underpants so that you could see your sagging. Is that is it is there, it doesn't say any pants but that. I don't want to see your butt crack. No. My brother-in-law has the best line if he sees butt crack crackkills. He sent it to Al once. Al's pants were like falling down. He's pulling stuff out of the car. He goes, yo Al, crackkills. Girl, this is like one of the funniest things ever. I clearly, because I remember it. It was like 20 years ago. Speaking of not being you like not committing. Oh wow, yeah. It's a new trend of platonic co-parenting. Platonic is like just no romantic sparks. Okay. People are looking for another human being to have children with. So not even someone they know. There are apps where you can go on and just be like, is there anybody else out there who wants to have kids but doesn't want to have a romantic relationship with me? And it's but then that person that they find is like just as involved. Yeah. That is so confusing for the child. But I guess if you have it, and I mean, it was this article is interesting, and I will say it's from the New York Times. It's from January. I've been meaning to bring it up, but I kept forgetting. Maybe I need a co-parent. But I mean, I do have a co-parent, a platonic co-parent. Oopsie daisies. A kid. I joke. I joke.

unknown 9:56

I joke.

SPEAKER_01 9:57

So there's an app called Mo Damly. Wait, Mo? M-O-D-A-M-I-L-Y. They have 100,000 users on this app. Yes. Because I was like, oh, this is a very small, I mean, 100,000 people. So they go out, like, and get on this app, and they're like, I am looking for somebody who likes the color blue and wears boots. I mean, I'm sure it's not those questions, but they talk about religion, they talk about like finances and school, like what their hopes and dreams are for their future children, and they try to match with somebody who wants to co-parent. And then child. And so then they're a base child. So it's yes, but not the old-fashioned way. Science is involved. Okay, okay. Yes. Create. What? That's a great way to ask. Okay. So they interviewed people. There's this one couple in Texas. She lives on a ranch. He travels a lot, but she's got a lot of property. So he has a little house on the ranch. They have two boys and he travels, but and he's like, you know, my parents fought a lot when I was growing up. I always wanted children, but I didn't want to fight. I just wanted somebody that I could be friends with and raise children. But then listen to this. Some people are having three parents.

SPEAKER_02 11:25

Oh a mom, a dad, and a and another mom.

SPEAKER_01 11:31

I'm like, two moms? When they're not so this specific instance, the there's a married man and woman, and then this third-Just get a nanny. Just Jesus. It's like an au pair. But wait, so the mom and dad are married and they are looking to introduce someone else into the Before they had their children, this woman became yeah. Three parents is easier. Well, of course it is. Yeah. So they live in Montreal and she wanted to have kids with a friend, not a romantic partner. But then Wait, but they got married? Mm-mm. No. Around the same time, a couple she had been friends with for 15 years offered to have a baby with her. So the couple, so the married couple had some concerns because we both have siblings with kids and see how hard it is. No, they were married, no kids. Married, no kids. So they're like, we thought this was great because this meant sharing the responsibilities, not with a babysitter or a nanny, but with someone who loves her child as much as she does. But then who whose biological child is it? So it's the dad with the third party. But it was through at home insemination. But the wife is just the wife. It's the wife and husband, and then the baby mama. And the girl, the side piece. And the uh extra. But she was the one who had the baby. Yeah, so the husband was like, hello. I again, I don't think there was a hello. I think it was a at-home insemination. So I don't know what that means. I think that needs to be done in a medical setting. I think so too. So they live in a duplex. It has two apartments connected by an interior staircase. They see their son every day and divvy up child care duties and record any expense for the child and split it three ways at the end of the month.

SPEAKER_02 13:40

Three ways. Shouldn't you just split it two ways?

SPEAKER_01 13:42

Well, I guess maybe they're not married. Maybe they're just in a committed couple. This is very confusing. So, oh, and pregnant again with their second child. So it's going great. Well, which one's pregnant? Ms. Lemou. Who is that? Oh, so now the m- like or the the wife now? The wife, if they're married, yeah. So this is like sister wives. Mm-hmm. But platonic. Because But I thought they were married. Well, the married couple are, but then the other lady So the married couple ha is now pregnant. Yes. But they're gonna share the baby with the other lady. Baby mama. Baby mama. The roommate, essentially. She said it's less intense because we have three people. And she's worried people won't understand, but Me. So there's so many types of families. Listen, if that works for you, great. That to me just Oh, here's the Texas couple. Their boys are cute. It just feels like an opportunity for so much to go wrong. We're gonna talk about that next. But so I don't know. I think it would be really hard to have a baby with a friend because part of having children with a committed partner is that you're like, not that you're stuck, but like you're committed. Like there's no like easy out.

unknown 15:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:08

There's a lot. There's a lot. But then they interviewed a lot of lawyers about it, and they're like, we won't take any clients for these type of cases until they've gone to counseling to like talk it out.

SPEAKER_02 15:22

And this just seems like in theory, great. Yeah. But IRL after raising four children, this does not seem like a good fit.

Breast Milk Jewelry And Keepsake Culture

SPEAKER_01 15:33

I wonder if the third person feels like left out ever. That's because at the end of the day, you've got the couple like going to bed together, like, good night. And there's no way they're not talking about the kid. It's not like you're like, nope, we can't talk about it. Number three is not here. And if you'd feel like it's like sister wives. Yeah. I don't know. Oh no, because she's just a friend. She's just a friend. So at least there's no jealousy. Oh, there's a ton of jealousy. I'm sure. You know what you think the friend starts to get jealous? It's a third wheel. Yeah, she might. She might, but maybe she's like, great, I don't want a husband. I just want I just want all this baby sometimes. But not all the times. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how that works. But if it works to these people, great. And all I'm here to tell you is that the cums turned 112. One of the best parts of reading this article, Nora, is that there were ads in the New York Times for breastfeeding milk jewelry. And I was like, okay. Doesn't that seem like an obstacle? So this is from a company called Keepsake Mom. You send them your breast milk. Oh, sick. They put it in like a something that looks like a stone. And then they put it in a piece of jewelry. Oh, okay. You're not wearing this. You when you're not dressing. Correct. Okay. You express your breast milk, they put it into like a stone, and then they set it in jewelry, but you can also do it with hair. It's like an ex you express and then you express. You're making your own length. But I just I mean, hooray for someone starting a business. Oh. But then they have these necklaces where you could send them your baby's hair and they'll turn it into like a necklace, a butterfly, or a tree. Didn't Angelina Jolie wear Blood? What's he has a couple names? Billy Bob Thornton's blood.

unknown 17:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

Oh. How much does uh your breast milk in a jar cost? That's a great jar cost you. Let's see. Breast milk in a jar. Oh, there's a video. I think we understand how to do it. I mean, it's pretty because it's just white stones, but how does it not go bad? Yeah, because it doesn't go bad. No. Also, I'm like, I wouldn't have wasted any of my breast milk on jewelry. I was like, all that is going to be. Well, what if somebody's like, that's a beautiful ring? And then what is your response?

SPEAKER_02 18:06

Oh, that's my breast milk.

SPEAKER_01 18:08

That's my milk. And what is the first kind of stone is it? Bro. Okay, so they kind of it's reasonable. It's it starts around$138. That looks like a drop of milk. Well, it is a drop.

SPEAKER_02 18:36

Wow, these are really creative names.

SPEAKER_01 18:38

I don't like that they call it mother's liquid love. I do not care for that. I don't care for any of this. This is disgusting. It's a pretty ring. Then get it in a stone form. Don't get it in a liquid form. Oh, that's pretty too. Some of these necklaces are pretty. Again, I just don't want I when I was breastfeeding, I was so precious with that. What if it broke? Right. Then you would be devastated. Oh. The cleanup on that. I mean, no, it's not a lot. These aren't like flavor flav. For the listeners, they're very small. But I just, oh wow. I wonder how I would love to know the process of how they've gotten this into a very small setting. Do we even know if there really is a process? Maybe they just said there is a video. Oh, no, thanks. No, you don't almost say that. Oh, breast milk lockets? Well, yeah. How it works. So, anyways, if you're a nursing mom and you're like, what should I do? Oh, she looks like she would create that company.

SPEAKER_00 19:38

Yeah.

Sponsor Break

SPEAKER_01 19:38

Yeah. If you're looking for something to do with your breast milk. Ooh, I wouldn't want to be the handler. Oh, they do breast milk and resin, acrylic resin. So, anyways. All right, well. How about it? Customers are on the corner. Exactly. I mean, people are thrilled with it. I guess you couldn't surprise anyone with it. You gotta buy your own breast milk already. This little trifecta of your two moms in a dick. Right. So if you have two moms, you could each get your well, only one of you could be breastfeeding. Anyways, all right, let's check in with our sponsor. Let's do it. Nora, have you heard about the Buick S-U-V sale? S-U-V sale? I've heard of the S UV sale. Oh no, it's S Y O U V because they want you in an SUV.

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Fire As The Theme

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Head on down to 93rd and Cicero or check them out at haggertycars.com. I sure will. I'll see you later. And now back to the show. Our topic today is fire in all senses of the word. This episode is gonna be so fire. Should we do should we be honest and tell people? So we had thought of this a while ago because we said, Oh, we'll have a show about ice and we'll do fire. And then a couple weeks ago, we're like, what are we talking about? Fire, that's weird. And then when we were talking the other day, as in typical fashion, we're like, well, we could talk about songs with the new fire firemen slaying fire, actual fire. And we thought, well, hey, there you go, there's a podcast. And when I was a kid, I had a fire force. What's that? It's not safe. It's what it is. So my first and dearest friend, Whitney Weigel, in Scottsdale, and I created a firefort. Her dad was really handy and had all sorts of like tools and materials.

SPEAKER_02 22:18

And on the side of their house, we took a giant plywood piece and laid it for the floor of our fort.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

And a giant plywood piece and it balanced on the wall, like of your house.

The Firefort Childhood Story

SPEAKER_02 22:33

The wall, like on the side of her house. Oh, and then like a window ledge. So it was like kind of slanted. And then we got a third piece of plywood and put it on the back.

SPEAKER_01 22:43

And then a plastic garbage bag for our door. It was great. It was big. It must have been hot.

SPEAKER_02 22:52

So then we would go in there and we'd write the name of our crushes on the plywood board.

SPEAKER_01 22:57

Mine was Ryan Clancy. Oh. Is this your skater boy? Oh no, that was Bart Rowling's. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 23:03

Different. Different era. This is like fifth to seventh grade. Okay. And every Sunday her mom would make bat sandwiches, bacon, avocado, and tomato sandwiches.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

So we'd eat our bat sandwiches, and then we tried to create a business in the fire fort. Because in the firefort we would also burn things. Hmm. That's the name. In your plywood plastic bag clubhouse. Connected to their home. Okay, okay. So we got crayons.

SPEAKER_02 23:32

Okay. Unpeeled them, melted them down. Oh. And then I would hold the string and lay it inside or like on the crayon to make candles in our firefort. So we would burn things and we would make candles. Which is why we named it the firefort.

SPEAKER_01 23:49

Firefort? Isn't that dense? Amazing and so crazy and dangerous at the same time. But you survived and the house didn't burn out. No. Did you have any close calls? Any like, oh no. No, we were very careful. Gosh, I would imagine because we just had a box of matches. That there were probably some close calls.

SPEAKER_02 24:14

Oh my god, growing up in the 80s and 90s, man. That's the best.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

I feel like I recently I let my child use a match to do birthday candles and they could not do it. Oh maybe they need a fire fork. They need a fire. I'm like, go outside and get some plywood and practice. Well, not because you just have a Yeah, you got like the trigger. But that is kind of tricky though, because you've got to pull back the like because it we have like a long one for our fireplace that I use. Sure. So you have to scroll back the little clicky wheel and then press the trigger at the same time. Yeah. Which is probably because in the 80s kids were taking matches and lighters and setting stuff on fire.

SPEAKER_02 24:52

Oh, do you guys light a fire in your fireplace?

Fireplaces Bonfires And Candle Memories

SPEAKER_01 24:56

We do in the winter. It's a gas fireplace, so it's nice so we don't have to like go out and chop down any logs. Cut logs, chop down trees. But we did no, we we don't, you know, side hustle as a lumberjack. When we moved into the house for the first year, we didn't really do anything with it. And then we had it just cleaned and reset and re-organized. And then Al was thrilled, and he was putting it on at like five o'clock in the after like in the evening and then falling asleep. And so it was on for like five hours. And then I got our gas bill and it was five hundred dollars. It's like, we need to talk about your fireplace usage. Let's please cut down on our maybe as needed. Yeah. So we're a little bit more careful with the fireplace, but it was really nice to have on in the winter. And it's just cozy.

SPEAKER_02 25:49

I don't mind a gas fire in a fireplace, but I am not a fan of like fire pits and bonfires and any kind of fire that makes your clothes smell or your hair.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

Uh Al came home the other night and I was like, You smell like a campfire. So did I. Oh, they were together.

SPEAKER_02 26:02

Oh I told him, go downstairs and put your clothes in the garage.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

Oh and he did. One time Al went to a barbecue restaurant in Texas and he came home. I was like, Were you in a bonfire? He's like, No, I was just at this like it was that smoked barbecue. No real fire starters for me. I used to like to stick my fingers in the melted wax and a candle and then like peel it off. Like at home spa situations. That's why I have no fingerprints. Yes, because I don't like candles for ultra serving. Like back when I was an ultra server, it was like the long matches. Oh yeah. So I guess I thank you. But you wouldn't stick your not the church candles, home candles. Home candles only. But I I didn't like and because I liked to pick off the wax. Did your mom like candles? No. No. Does not like candles, does not like any of that. Okay. Yeah, my mom either. Well, she has a couple. She has she'll usually have like one nice candle. Yeah. That's how I am. But not a lot of like bath and body marks. Like I don't want anyone to walk in and be like, Frisia. Country apple. Country apple. Cucumber melon, anyone? Yes. Remember the body sprays? They were like not perfumes, but yeah, but they were just that same scent in a spray form. Oh. But my grandfather and all his brothers were firemen.

SPEAKER_02 27:27

That's awesome, isn't it?

Firefighters In The Family

SPEAKER_01 27:28

Which is very cool. And there was a really neat article about them in the Chicago Tribune back in the 60s, and it said the firefighting Connors is. And it was my grandfather on the fire truck and his four brothers like yelling at him from back there, like from behind the truck. It's very cute. And one of the fire stations he was at in Chicago turned into a restaurant. And they used the picture on a lot of their promotional materials. I would love to see that picture. Which was neat. I don't know if they still have it up, but because they had a fire, ironically enough, and then had to read it. And you had a bridal show. One of my showers was there. It was very neat. And we brought him to eat there a couple of times, and he was really cute. He saw he looks a lot different than when I was here. Oh, I'm sure. Thankfully. Thankfully. But one time we were out to dinner with him, and I think it was me and my mom, maybe my aunt and my sister were at is like before kids, like before I was married, like we're at the table. My grandma was there too. And the bread basket started on fire. Like the paper from the bread. Oh, yeah. Like caught the candle. And like all the ladies were just chit-chatting. And my grandfather, like, cools a cube cover, goes, bread's on fire. We were like, we're like throwing water on it. And my aunt was like, What? You're a firefighter. Like, what? He's like, I told you it was on fire. But he was the only one that didn't freak out or like throw water or do anything else like that. It was so funny. Let it burn. He was like, bread's on fire. Bread's on fire. Bread's on fire. Did your kids go through a firefighter phase? Yes. Fire trucks. Yeah. I in that, but I had that written down. I wonder what it is. Is it just they're red and they're loud and they're lights? My nephew calls them woo-woos. Did my girls?

SPEAKER_02 29:10

Yeah, not my girls as much. Yeah. Because John's, I mean, lasted, as we all know, well into his grade school years.

SPEAKER_01 29:19

And we were lucky enough to have two firefighters across the street. That's amazing. But those make the best pictures.

unknown 29:25

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 29:26

Like looking back on all the little fire stuff in the little like Aiden had a hat, a hat and scarf that were like a fireman thing. And it looked so cute. Kevin would like, we'd have to point them out. You'd be like fire truck. Firetruck. All the time. Yeah, I think I don't know. It's a boy thing? Johnny trading cards? Oh, we firemen trading cards. We were lucky. Oh. I was like, did he have like the New York Fire Department like a sexy calendar?

SPEAKER_02 29:56

No, he had from Fireman Nick these two, or I guess one of the kids, their kids, like all these different trading cards of different fire trucks around the country. Oh, that's cute. We love that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:09

So he knows the difference between like a ladder and an engine and all the stuff. Drawing that one into like all the chalk drawings. It's like that's ingrained in him. One of my mom's cousins, who is also a fireman, has own operates the Chicago Firehouse Museum. I've been there.

SPEAKER_02 30:27

Have you really? Yes. Oh my God. Also, I've been there. You should have told me.

SPEAKER_01 30:31

I don't know with Jack Honors. Um, also in Arizona, right near the zoo is the fire truck museum. While most children want to go to the zoo, Mike Westphal always wanted to go to the fire truck museum.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

That's cool. Yeah. And it does.

Fire History From Rome To Space

SPEAKER_01 30:49

They're not sleeping. Really? In the Arizona one yeah. Oh, that's cute. Well, the first firehouse in the United States was the Union Fire Company opened by Ben Franklin in 1736. Really? Yes. Oh. How cool? Who knew? I know. He's a guy. I mean, he had his hand in a lot of pots. A man of many hats and many hats? I think he had some questionable relationship behaviors. But very clever man. He's a bit of a player. Well, don't hate the player. Hate the game. Did a lot of good for the country. You know, we gotta separate the mistakes.

SPEAKER_02 31:27

He can't be defined. I know where are we going, Ben? I don't know. Why did I bring that up? I don't know. Give me another fact.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

But the first ever fire department was in Rome. It was 27 BC. Well, I guess I mean fire's been around for a long time. It's 400,000 years ago, they think is when humans or human-ish type of people started using fire. Where they're like, oh, this could help. They think they mostly used it. I mean, I think it it obviously happened by accident, like lightning strikes, and then things would set on fire, and they're like, oh no. But then they would say that was a direct translation from Ne Neanderthal. But that because they have done archaeological digs where they have found what they are assuming is a fire pit, because they found some sort of like charcoal or remnants of fire. Oh. Which is pretty neat. Um, I was reading about flames in space. Oh. That there's no actual flame. So there's no oxygen.

SPEAKER_02 32:32

Yeah, so they're just like round.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

Oh isn't that interesting? That is interesting. No. I would be very worried having flame in a spaceship.

SPEAKER_02 32:42

Well, and when they enter back into Earth, aren't they like a ball of flame?

unknown 32:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:47

Yeah. So this is why I'm not an astronaut, Nora. Or a firefighter. Yeah, that's a lot. So, oh, in the Chicago fire that happened. Oh, the great Chicago fire. Yes, which totally, I mean, and I'm sorry for the people who had to live through it, but it really did good things for Chicago because it burned down so much of like the stuff along the lake that they were able to rebuild and say, you know what, let's not put our crummy factories and industrial things by the lake. Let's move those somewhere else and let's keep the lake pretty. Let's have all this kind of stuff here. So because of the fire, that's why we have such a beautiful city. Well, look at the silver lining on that. And that's why we have a grid system, and that's why we have alleys for garbage. And that's because we got to like control all delete. We got to start Daniel Burnham, and he had a plan. Fresh start. We really from the ashes. We rise, rises. So yeah, so it was a bad thing, but lemonade out of limits. What is wrong with me today? Debbie Downer. No, you're not.

SPEAKER_02 33:56

You've I mean how do I compete with uh breast milk jewelry and friends parenting? I mean, really, you've carried us today.

Fire Songs Slang And Liar Liar

SPEAKER_01 34:06

Hardly. I just kind of took a back seat and a big listen. Because I'm a weirdo. Should we talk about music? It's very important a music fire. Oh, yeah. This girl is on fire. Totally. Fire starter. I loved that song in high school. You did? Hamafire style. Data fire. The roof. The roof. The roof is on fire. Then stop singing and put it out. It was like my grandfather. Bread's on fire. Bread's on fire. He was the inspiration for that song. My uh thought on that song was always like, well, maybe you want a little bit of water. I don't know. What was the other one? Light my fire? Well, hello. Firestar. Yeah, we didn't. I'm sure there's other ones. Oh, there's so yeah. Oh, fire. Oh, that's I've seen fire. Oh, fire and rain. James Taylor. I've seen fire and I've seen rain. Something like that. Yeah. I was thinking also about like all the slang. Like, that's fire. That's so lit. That's hot. Like all of it. Oh, right. All of it. It's provided us great slang. Do you use fire in your like vernal? In my parenting. I don't think I've ever said something is fire, but I have used the fire emoji. I will use it with my kids, yeah. Okay. Because the things they say are so bonkers that I just join it. But now they are not saying fire. They say that's so gas. Oh well, gas starts a fire. I just think like, really? I know. Because I think of passing gas. Yeah. I think that's great. It's not fire.

SPEAKER_02 35:42

Not fire. Like liar liar pants on fire. Did you look it up? No. I gosh. Darn it thought you were gonna luck it out. Well we'll pause. I looked up like you got fired. Oh, where does that come from? This came from the 1800s when they would force someone to leave. Like, for example, your home sending them away from the fire.

SPEAKER_01 36:03

Oh. You're kicking them out. Oh, like get out.

SPEAKER_02 36:05

But wouldn't you think that that term would mean like come in, come get fired, come get warm?

SPEAKER_01 36:10

Or you like if you can't hand it's almost kind of like if you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Yeah. It's like go. Coolio. Rest in peace. Yes. So I did a quick little internet search here because I failed in my assignment. It was saying the f the phrase probably comes from a common trope in folktales, that I guess in certain folk tales, a thief's hat would catch on fire as kind of a consequence of being a thief. And that so you would be like, oh, you're you're a liar, you're a thief. Your hat's on fire, but that's not explaining pants. Well, I guess it traveled. Yeah. We sing that rhyme in England. Oh, this is a British person who's saying we sang that in England, but pants doesn't mean you think pants means underpants. Underpants. So that's even worse. Yikes. Your person is on fire in your pants. That's your body. How about when you would buy pajamas for your kids when they were younger? It would be like fire retardant? Like, yeah. Yes. Like. I'm like, if these are on fire, I have a bigger. Like, I'm not like there is bigger problems here. I have a shirt that says in the tab, keep away from fire. Thanks. Oh, oh God. Now I know. I was gonna walk right through fire. Right. So yeah, there's not a there is a good song. Not a good, there's not really a great explanation. There is a song from the 1960s called Liar Liar by the Castaways.

SPEAKER_02 38:16

Oh my God. The video makes me very happy. Do yourself a favor, check out the Liar Liar video. What? I didn't realize it was Lima. She licked my hand. It scared me.

SPEAKER_01 38:28

I thought something was on fire. I'm sorry, that scared me. Go check out this video. Yeah, the castaways 1965.

SPEAKER_02 38:37

Yep.

Fireball Opinions Plus Highs And Lows

SPEAKER_01 38:38

They sing Liar Liar, Pants on Fire, sitting on a telephone wire. And these ladies are in like a tropical scene in turtleneck and corduroys dancing. This is the best thing I've seen all day. Same, same. Before we launch into highs and lows, I just wondered about your thoughts on Fireball, the shot. Oh I here's the thing. I'm not a big shot person. I like shots. So would I rather do fireball than Malort? Yes. Would I rather sit my drink rather than shoot fireball? Yes. Same. But there are worse things you could do as a shot. True. Yeah, I'm kind of in the same. Yeah. Some people love it. Yeah, I know. That's fine. Like you can buy a bucket of them. We put them in a pinata. We did for charity party.

SPEAKER_02 39:32

Charity party. And we have a friend who sometimes when he comes by will leave them scattered around our home.

SPEAKER_01 39:37

Oh, like a little Easter egg hunt.

SPEAKER_02 39:40

Oh. Which was kind of funny and a little scary when the kids were little, but also kind of funny and a little scary now that kids are older. Ah, yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 39:47

For very different reasons. I have to mention this song because it's one of my mom's favorite songs. Fireball by Pitbull. It's like Yeah, yeah. My mom loves that. She does? She does. This is great. Anyways, highs and lows. Highs and lows. Let's go. My debit card was compromised. It was jacked. It was jacked. And so it was one of those, it was like a weird like Xbox purchase. Which it isn't really that weird considering you have two boys. So but the weird thing was that it came in at like 2 30 in the morning. Weird. Okay. So it was one of those. But I asked all of them, I said, you know, did you buy something on Xbox? And they're like, no, no. And I was like, no, no, stop. Like, I'm kind of hoping you did. I was like, you're not in trouble. Like this charges on my card. Yeah. But like, so if you did buy something on Xbox, I would be thrilled. And they're like, it wasn't me. Yeah. So it wasn't them, so I canceled it. But now I gotta get a new debit card. I'm gonna get all kinds of emails. Like, your card didn't go through. Yes, I hate that. Although that number memorized. Sorry for you. When's the last time you said because you don't lose things. I lose things, so I have to do it. I didn't lose it. It's just somebody got it somehow. The last time I lost my debit card, I didn't get it. Or the last time you had to get a new one. It's probably been a while. It's been a while. Mm-hmm. But how about you? My lowest, I'm getting a cold. So I'm sorry about that. That's okay. Nothing little date quil can't fix.

SPEAKER_02 41:13

How about your high? The high is Saturday night. So we had uh no no. Oh no, this pass okay. We had a recording session and then we had a last minute dinner plan with my dad.

SPEAKER_01 41:27

Usually we go on Thursdays. Yeah, he was coming back from the lake and we didn't have plans, so it worked perfectly. And then a nightcap with the Nora. Yes. That was very fun. Taylors. Yes. Yeah. That was really nice. That was nice of you to stop by. We just had dinner with Al's brother and sister-in-law, and that's so nice of you guys to drop by. My high was Rosa's Communion. Oh, gosh, of course. I mean, it was kind of my high last week too, but it was really lovely. And also, I still have some of her cookies left. Oh, you do?

unknown 41:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 41:55

So that's also my high. Cup of tea. Teen cookie. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 42:00

Oh, it's the best.

Final Musical Plug And Goodbye

SPEAKER_01 42:01

And the musical is good. It's I think it's going to be a really fun show. I'm excited. I'm excited for people to see it because, like me, a lot of people were SpongeBob haters, and this musical is just the cutest thing you've ever seen.

SPEAKER_02 42:14

I can't wait to see it. And if you are local, get your chickens. They're still available. Yep. All right. That does it for us. Yeah. Bye. Bye.